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"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69) 07/11/2018 at 14:07 • Filed to: None

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AuthiCooper1300 > pip bip - choose Corrour 07/11/2018 at 14:13

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An Aussie rooting for the p... I mean . . . the English?

What’s the world coming to?!

For Sweden > pip bip - choose Corrour 07/11/2018 at 14:14

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England-France will be the first World Cup final between nuclear powers

punkgoose17 > pip bip - choose Corrour 07/11/2018 at 14:20

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I have been rooting for both so this is a win-win for me except I can’t actually watch at work. I hope whomever wins beats France.

facw > For Sweden 07/11/2018 at 14:27

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Maybe? The US loaned nuclear weapons to allies during the Cold War (and indeed still does). I didn’t quickly find information about when the US started this practice, but it might have been in place when West Germany played England in 1966. Certainly W. Germany was developing planes intended to be nuclear bombers in the ‘60s.

Conceivably some of the others as well (we’ve given nukes to T he Netherlands and Italy as well, for example).

Otto-the-Croatian-'Whoops my Volvo is a sedan' > pip bip - choose Corrour 07/11/2018 at 15:00

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Jesus Christ I hope it’s ‘ coming home’ so that I can look through the window without seeing or hearing about fucking football again and have my life back.

AuthiCooper1300 > facw 07/11/2018 at 15:01

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Hmm. But hosting nuclear weapons does not give you the ability to launch or arm them unless US (or NATO) greenlight it, correct? And that would only happen in the event of war.

facw > AuthiCooper1300 07/11/2018 at 15:16

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So in theory, they are held by the US until war breaks out at which point they would be released the host to actually deliver if necessary. In practice its not clear that it has always been so cut and dry.

pip bip - choose Corrour > AuthiCooper1300 07/11/2018 at 15:34

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well if Australia were still in, i wouldn’t be supporting the poms

For Sweden > Otto-the-Croatian-'Whoops my Volvo is a sedan' 07/11/2018 at 15:36

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I’ve got bad news...

AuthiCooper1300 > facw 07/11/2018 at 15:38

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Obviously that’s the theory a n d , o s t e n s i b l y , t h e o f f i c i a l l i n e .

O n t h e o t h e r h a n d , I would be really, really surprised if those US weapons could be armed/launched on their own by a n y of the states hosting them. I should imagine the US would expect, say, the Netherlands or Belgium to act in a sensible manner. T u r k e y , on the other hand , I a m n o t s o s u r e .

D uring the Cold War Germany must have posed an interesting dilemma . Should Germany be given a somewhat limited amount of autonomy regarding the use of American nuclear weapons... or none at all? I imagine that on grounds of expediency there used to be a much faster (looser?) decision protocol for Germany.

But could a German military commander order a nuclear bombing mission against WarPac without US consent? I s i t t h at what y o u a r e s u g g e s tin g ?

Otto-the-Croatian-'Whoops my Volvo is a sedan' > For Sweden 07/11/2018 at 15:51

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Yep